. >> there's been some discussion that jake lou is not leading negotiations, looks like it will be geithner. is that going to make a difference? >> well, i think it's important that we have the direct involvement of the white house, secretary geithner is fully engaged on this. and i think he is -- will represent the administration well. you also, of course, have to have the house and senate as part of this equation. i think all the players have to be at the table. the important point is, the american people want us to come together. we want to deal, we want to avoid the fiscal cliff. we do that, we believe our economy can take off. stakes are very high. we want to make sure all the players are together on this. >> when she spoke on friday, nancy pelosi said there should be a way to communicate to the markets the degree to which progress is being made. if there's any progress being made at all. how do you think that's going to happen? what should markets expect in terms of trial balloons, notifications from the white house, from congressional leaders? can the markets start to anticipate some